They tend to be slightly smaller flowers, but you get more flowers on the stem when you start. Plant into cool soil and you won't really have this problem. You can't quite tell, but at the other end there's a boom sprayer that's irrigating at just the moment that plug starts to dry out. The only rule is that Lisianthus wants to start life in cool soil. So you know tomatoes and zinnias, you might want to plant 55 and above. The majority of the new perennials, along with all lisianthus, are being sourced from FB. They've been bred for their, you know, rounded petals. BH: Yeah, I'll be in Kentucky for just three days, but I'm having brunch with Val, so yeah. If anything, pinch that flower out or go pinch. Maybe just, you know, 5 foot tomato stakes, 4 foot tomato stakes, pounded into the ground would work. But if you're selling into a premium florist market, I recommend not pinching because you're just going to get bigger stems. Hopefully lots of folks from the webinar tonight will go and check out your inventory and place some orders and we always love to see new operations come into the cut flower industry. It lastsreally well out of water, if you've ever grown it, you know it's kind of succulent, so it's really good for doing arches or doing, you know, personal flowers, those boutonnieres and corsages. But we more recently have been producing sweet pea seed, which we will continue to do after we move to Portugal in a couple of weeks. And like you said, not justlooking at random information, but being sure to look at expert information that's out there from the universities and experienced growers and the Cut Flower Association. AS: OK, I've got two more and then I'm gonna pass it off to see if anybody else saw some that I missed. By planting some of each group, you naturally stagger your harvest window as you have some early bloomers, some late bloomers, and some in between. Sometimes seed goes out of stock, or germination rates are less that perfect. A lot of the early breeding happened in Florida and then I'll show you how far it's come in just a really short time. You don't want to put them into something with Fusarium in it. Not many people are, especially in Kentucky, you can ignore this part. We'll put one of the lisianthus trays on a heat mat with a thermostat set to 80 degrees Fahrenheit during the germination phase. And, you know if you have a plant that's jostling around all the time, it's going to be stockier and shorter. As the plants grow, move the support netting up with them. 2023 Farmer Bailey Inc., All rights reserved. That's also where the fertility comes from. Fusarium and root rots of various sorts are the biggest issue, and there's a lot of different root rots. The lisanthus plugs I ordered are "210" size. BH: I would say they're pretty flexible. CF: Alright, well thank you so much, Bailey! We always use plastic mulch to keep weeds down, but if you are a dedicated and obsessive weeder feel free to grow in bare soil. But use those groups 3 and 4 because they won't respond to that long day length as quickly as the groups 1 and 2. You definitely have a Kentucky connection and we're glad to have you with us tonightand giving this webinar. The webinar is being recorded so we will make it available. Okay, this is kind of a bad picture. Just holds up really, really nicely out of water. Or, if for something, you know, if something changes in your world, maybe your ground hasn't completely thawed, maybe your employees haven't shown up yet. Sweet peas galore the top crop at Ardelia Farm & Co. We had about a half acre in tunnel production. You see even things like astilbe do fine out in the full sun because it is so cool and lots of moisture usually. Much discussion occurs around the idea of "Bumping Up" Lisianthus on arrival. You know, put a piece of frost cloth over there if you're going to have a cold snap. Our LP32 plugs are 4.00" deep by 2.22" square and come 32 per to a standard nursery liner. So, that said, I want you to try to grow these from seed. If you are ordering more than 33 trays for shipping on a given ship date, a custom freight quote will be generated, and you will be invoiced at the time of shipping. Using a remay type frost blanket is a great way to help your plugs adjust to the real world. I would pull that plant out. . Powered by Shopify. Yeah, as I mentioned before, if you pinch, you're going to get more stems, but they're going to be smaller. So do your math, and make sure you have 3 trays, which can be a combination of half and whole trays. Why would that be? They're a plug grower in eastern Pennsylvania and they agreed to grow just one year, just kind of a group order for me and some friends, mostly that I met on Facebook, and other growers through the ASCFG. Japanese breeders such as Sakata, Takii and Sumika have further transformed this species into a wide range of flower colors, shapes and sizes with broad market appeal. Our lisianthus seeds were sown 2 seeds to a cell, uncovered,in deep-root 50-cell trays. You know, just be careful not to over fertilize them, but you know, fresh cow manure can. That seed is really expensive. You know the Association of Specialty Cut Flower Growers, voted Voyage light apricot, cut flower of the year and I can't argue that. Now again, if you have a market for really short stems, you can let that first flower open, cut it out, use it. They only took me 4 years (and finally buying plugs from Farmer Bailey ) to successfully grow an amazing crop!". The cell trays are on a rack by a window in our home office under fluorescent lights. We all recall the "early bloomers" in school when we were in our adolescent years and this is a good analogy. CRB on October 26, 2015 at 10:01 pm . So that's how we launched Farmer Bailey. I think I paid $2.00 a stick, a 10-foot piece, when I bought it and now it's going for $8.00 or $9.00, so that becomes less economical at that price. But I want to just very quickly put the poll here and, Bailey, you can see kind of what the demographics are for our group, so most are outside Kentucky. If you are having a having trouble, you know, use a silver or white mulch that reflects, you know, a lot of extra sunlight helps keep your soil cool, that that can help. The plant is fine, but you just want to put that in a bigger cell on arrival. So, you don't need to panic, but if you're thinking about plugs this year, this is a really great week to get your order in because you know, come Christmas time things start getting tight, the space is just fully booked. This gives us plenty of time to source seed and schedule bench space to grow your trays specifically for you. The next critical stage in the life of Lisianthus is when it is transplanted. You know, for a corsage or boutonniere and then harvest your stem later when you have at least three flowers open. I think they need a warmer or more humid season like you would have in Kentucky to really breakdown. Sections of this page. She's a cut flowergrower with Three Toads Farm, Val Schirmer, and we can get a discount code for folks who are interested in joining the association for the first time. You see how nice each of those plants looks after. Lisianthus is tolerant of frost when it is young, and will be fine with temperatures down to 20F, assuming it is planted in the ground. In doing so, I was able to get access to new varieties I couldn't have gotten by purchasing seeds. You know if its a hot day and you're planting outin full sun I would, you know, plant 20 feet and then water it before you keep planting. If you are close to another grower that is also ordering, consider consolidating your orders to save on custom freight. Back in the 80's a group of American academics and plant breeders recognized the potential of this pretty purple wildflower and set the stage for the explosion of varieties we see today. So, 38 seemed always kind of safe temperature for us. Yes, I am in theplug business, but when you grow them from seed, you'll understand the value of a plug. I think maybe I'm just repeating what I just said. It is always better to slide it up before the plant needs to be supported, and it is a real pain to move netting up after plants are already leaning. They've since moved on to an LED system. I've learned so much about lisianthus, I don't know that I'm ready to try it myself. So, if you plant one out in the middle of summer, it's going to have so much light and such long days it's going to want to flower immediately, and it might flower on a really short stem. It seems that the brands kind of vary region to region. Do deer like to eat lisianthus? Also, slightly alkaline. You can plant one year and harvest that same year. And that's two plants per square, so I kind of stagger them within that square. Right, so that's kind of how the plugs are produced. This is to allow the necessary time for Gro 'n Sell to produce your plugs. Group 1 Lisianthus will enter their flowering stage (reproductive stage) earlier than Group 2 plants, followed by Group 3 and Group 4. So, they're really great for boutonniere work especially. It's a great idea to keep a little buffer around. If you live in Pennsylvania or New Jersey, you may choose. Lisis need a cool start to life. You know, any plants purpose is to make a flower and make seeds and reproduce. Also if you keep some 50s or 72s on hand in case your plugs come out of their tray in transit, it does happen. If you plant them into hot soil they will rosette, so they're you know they're from southern and southwestern places. Yeah, alright, well thank you so much. WISH I HAD BOUGHT MORE!, "There are a lot of things that can - and do - go wrong in any growing season, but these lisianthus are doing just fine. I got the Johnnys Hoop Bender, which makes these kind of horseshoe shaped hoops. According to Farmer Bailey, lisianthus is tolerant of frost when it is young, and will be fine with temperatures down to 20F (-6C), assuming it is planted in the ground (they CANNOT handle these temps in a tray). I found better control planting into plastic. Just like humans, some Lisianthus varieties are genetically programmed to enter their reproductive phase earlier or later than others. Yeah, just look for those shortest coolest days of the year and that's when you're going to want to plant if you're in a really warm spot. Organic, you know, orare there organic seeds? You're going to really kind of shock them into growing again. But that's OK! The second it needs more light,those lights kick on. BH: One, unless you get a second flush. There was our woody field. Now there's a lot of workshops out there. I prefer to not pinch, resulting in taller stems with larger flowers. Farmer Bailey, hes also known as. We'll talk a little bit about the production of lisianthus. They're all I mean, all of the varieties we sell, I stand behind. The humidity stays at 100%. The second flush will branch, so you probably get maybe three or four on your second flush. We have about 800 different products, so we've got a lot of cut flower items. Their structures are not elaborate or fancy. But you can see the plant in the middle. The only thing I recommend is maybe don't grow these outside. It also comes in blue and purple shades, which have long eluded rose breeders. I'll also try to allow the plants to dry out slightly between waterings to try and control the growth of algae (I already see a little). We will never bill your card without permission (in fact we can't, and don't have access to it) but you may be invoiced if shipping rates change. Pull out and destroy affected plants to slow its spread. "Growing your business from the ground up", The Henry F. Michell Company has been supplying greenhouse growers, nurseries, landscapers, and others with top-quality garden products for over 123 years! If everyone is so enthusiastic and they want to order a pallet of 30 flats for next season. Never had much problem with it. We really appreciate it. That's really the first step - just keeping your humidity high. PLUGS + BULBS: Fred C Gloeckner & Co + Farmer Bailey. Liset, the farmer running the stand, started flower farming in 2019 and has expanded to growing veggies as well. You can cut it next week. The poly on your tunnel blocks some of the light and so things have to stretch a little taller. They do best when given 2-3 weeks where soil is below 55F before summer conditions warm up. There's theblue and the champagne. So, I contacted Gron Sell. Now, that said, if you don't get around to harvesting or you don't have a sale, you know you don't have a customer that week, you can probably leave it another week and wait untilyou might trim off some dead flowers, but Lisianthus will just keep putting out buds, so it's really one of the things I love most about them. Testing is usually free or low cost, and will save you the headache of guessing what pathogen you are actually dealing with. So just that you know a little bit of protection from the wind does make any plant grow taller, so it's not just lisianthus. I mean, it's so versatile. available in half tray sizes (anything sold in a 51-cell tray.) Make sure you leave lots of questions. Please share. The regular temp for the space (my office) is around 60-65F, so I'm feeling good about the location for our experiment. FD: Bailey, can you talk about watering seedlings a little bit? The people who make the pellet, the pelleting technology, they will not tell you what's in it. And, I will say that once I started doing this my Fusarium losses have been much lower. Overhead water them for at least two weeks after you plant. I'm working with Mariachi Pure White (a Group 2 lisianthus variety recommended to me by Vanessa at TarrNation Flower Farm) and Roseanne Black Pearl- a Group 1 variety. The wild ones are single petaled, but they've started breeding these ruffled single petals and all different colors here. So when do you transplant Lisianthus for the best results? You know, to further compound that, it can be difficult to communicate with Japan because of the language barrier. I have the challenge of deciding how and if I'll divide and transplant the seedlings once they get larger to save as many as possible. So, I would get in there. They generally grow mainly in the central part of the US. I'm sure there are many of you out there who understand! Lisianthus will not flower in the plug tray like some plants will, it must reach a certain stage of maturity before buds will form. I don't argue that, but I think the risk might be a little too great considering how expensive the plugs can be. So just raise, you know, put, like I said, use two layers, start them at the ground level. It turned out to be their biggest order that year. You know, I haven't priced out T-posts in a while. An increasingly wide range of colors, shapes and sizes. Not to mention, you know the growers in the restof the world, so they reallydon't, Im not saying theydon't care, but their stuff is sold already, it just makes more work for them without really any more profit. Right, I'm going to drop in your website into the chat so people can go thereand if you want to just real quickly mention how people could order from you. I am moving some of them to 38 plug trays to see how large I can get them by the time I will transplant. I don't know a lot of people who are reliably overwintering year after year. They evaluated, like, total profits based onpinching or not pinching, and I think per square foot they saw you could make more money with pinched plants than without. I thought it was gonna be a one-year thing and now it's my full time job and I've got three people helping me and I feel like we're just getting started supplying the small- to medium- scale American cut flower grower. That'll spot your petals. You have fewer blemishes and spots on them when grown in a high tunnel. And then as far as kind of how people describe themselves, the majority more than, well, almost 70% are growers. It's coming from a sterile greenhouse, so you should put it on a bench or on a clean surface, you know, until you're absolutely ready to transplant, because you can even on the ground in your driveway, you can pick up fusarium on the bottom of your plug tray and you'll start seeing plugs drop off before you even plant them. In a tunnel you can plant 4-6 weeks before last outdoor frost. So, I encourage you to start breeding organic lisianthus and growing organic plugs and let me know when they're ready and I'd be happy to sell them for you. Val is one of my great friends, so I'm going to see her next Sunday, I think. There's a grower that grows 60 million stems a week. We give them wider spacing than they do in Holland, so it's slightly different product, but just really fascinating to see how they're doing it. This "moat" of unplanted soils seems to offer a sufficient barrier when trying to manage small outbreaks. A tray above ground will freeze solid at 20F damaging the roots and killing the plug, but in the ground, those roots will be insulated. For a while,we were shipping to the wholesale market in New York City as well as supplying mainly one local florist. There is no right answer. The plant must also be mature enough, and this last one is a little hard to define, as it varies by variety. He's going to be covering Lisianthus, talking about production for cut flower growers. Our attention to detail is what sets us apart. BH: So, the trick there is you have to get them in the ground before your soil getshot. AS: Felicia, is there anything that I missed? So, I have a 50 or 72 cell tray on hand. So, if you read up on blossom end rot in tomatoes, that's kind of the most classic example of calcium deficiency. At least it's evening here in the Eastern Time zone. Welcome back to the Barn Bulletin. Especially for this crop. Please place your order at least 10-12 weeks before your desired Ship Date. And then after about 10 days, or two weeks, you see a little sprout like this. FD: Bailey, if you think you can get a second flush, how would you achieve that? Now, if anything you've got to work harder to get you know, amend your soil in the spring,make sure you got a, you know, a lot of great compost, use that. Now is a great time to start thinking about what lisianthus plugs you want to order for next year! So, I will close that out and I just want to say thank you so much. You'll never squeeze it back into that small cell. So, I can't sing their praises enough. So, whatever you need to do to keep your weeds under control. The safety net makes me unafraid to take risks with our little seed starting experiment. These tall stems with large heavy flowers topple easily. That's something you should be doing every year, even if you think you know what's going on with your soil, things can change really quickly, but you're not going to go wrong with organic matter. Also, keep in mind the costs of that seed. That can be any three things we sell. You know, think about a sunflower, think about a zinnia. Your source for growing guides, cultural information, industry insight, farmer profiles, and so much more! By planting some of each group, you naturally stagger your harvest window as you have some early bloomers, some late bloomers, and some in between. You know series like Arena, ABC, Echo, Mariachi, Super Magic. South CentralAlabama, Arkansas, Arizona - you can read the states there - into Mexico. This is why it is almost always supplied as "pelleted" seed. Located in Chalfont, PA, our three acre facility houses a large variety of plug and liner trays, annuals, perennials, herbs, vegetables, and specialty products. Lisianthus, Voyage First Love William Dam Seeds is a family run company located just outside of Dundas, Ontario, Canada. There's a kind of a natural stopping point. It's really pleasing. They leave an open space down the middle of the rows. I'm guessing they're also pricey. Your last spring frost date is an important benchmark in your season. The biofungicides are, you know, they're an organic product, kind of. It must be warm enough (general summer conditions are warm enough), it must be receiving "long days" like we all have in summer. We would grow many thousands of sweet peas each year. If you put them in in October, November, they're going to look about the same in March. Please follow me on all my socials linked below.Sweet Girl Farms is a year round farm stand located in Reedley, CA. They found soil, they found water in the soil. If you, I mean, I know I know high tunnels are expensive, not everyone has them, but usually that's the first crop that people put in their high tunnel once they have it. I won't say anything about Cindy. FD: When you're doing crop rotation, how long do you wait to plant in that space again with the same crop? About this group A place to discuss custom plug orders and needs so that "Farmer Bailey" can better meet the plug needs of the professional flower farmer. Update: January 29: Teeny Lisi sprouts continue to do their thing. It can be hard not to do what you think is "the right thing" for all of your plants. Unfortunately, the soil on our new farm is clay -- very fertile-- but not well draining. Next time, I'll sow just one seed per cell. Sow 12-13 weeks in deep cell packs before last frost. Most of the peat-based medias are sterile and we're still using peat in the US. I had to stop to get a little Kentucky cheer to help me through the evening here, so this would be fun even though I see a lot of people aren't from Kentucky. You will be offered a substitution or a refund if an item you ordered becomes unavailable. Well,theirs wasn't - they didn't understand the need for these. So, Rosita, Chroma, Erosa, they're all great. Move to 35-50 degrees in full sun for bulking up (cold snaps down to 20 are fine!) Let's say most growers order plugs, of any size. But if you live in a dry place, they would probably do just fine outside. What's so great about Lisianthus? We have to try them! I am also known as Farmer Bailey. In the wetter and cooler times of year wild Lisianthus seed germinates and gets established. Learning how to grow these more challenging plants (lisianthus) on . It just like shredded my fingers. 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