shannan watts autopsy

So yeah sigh! Believe meeven the worst of the worst, hardened criminals do NOT like baby killers.they WILL do to him what he did to his babiesjust a matter of time one of those inmates having NOTHING to lose, lifetime sentences.CW is NOT going to live long once hes let out of his isolated cageGuards will make sure a door gets left open, backs turnedthey HATE baby killers toowe all do. Lastly, he lies constantly to the police, why is this self serving story all of the sudden believable? When youre pregnant you do, breasts get tender and the extra support helps. Or putting her down. She felt that he is going out to pour oil on the bodies to dispose of them. Her husband spoke to Chris and he was not shedding a tear about his missing family.. Also, the fact that he did not want her to come to Colorado with his dad so that maybe she would not be questioned? He knew that he would be at those oil tanks by himself that morning. The children were in 20 foot tanks with hatches on top. Shannan wasnt answering phone calls or text and missed her doctors appointment. Christopher Watts, the husband of pregnant Shanann Watts and the father of Bella and 3-year-old Celeste, pleaded guilty to killing all three in August. While officers were waiting, Christopher confessed to killing Shanann, and getting rid of the bodies of Celeste and Bella. Late stage of pregnant. It takes 4 5 hours for a stomach to empty after eating. Otherwise I cant imagine why she didnt go for his eyes etc. Im sure he didnt want any questions from her or to talk about anything. ShanAnn was, to put it simply, addicted to her MLM lifestyle and that was the most important thing in her life. & he says ah um like yeah theres that too & sort of skips right over it. Taking it off makes the breasts throb & feel more painful. Smothering is albeit horrific, a more a gentle or approach that a mother may take. The girls were described as light sleepers, and I wonder if this was because in fact they were sleeping too much, because wow, that is a lot of sleep, even for their ages. I dont know why the Watts murders have affected me like this. Shanann was strangled and the children were smothered. Hes asked what happened after Shannan was dead he says he carried her to their room and put her back into bed. It is most likely that the girls were dead by 6 PM Sunday night already, which was why Chris couldnt reschedule the murders as soon as he heard ShanAnns flight would be delayed, thereby cutting dangerously into his cleanup time. To do her business? She should have seen my house when my kids were little. I wondered if there was a fight, Bella saw him strangle her mother and ran into the basement to hide from him. SWs flight delay was bad news, but since hed already gotten the girls out of the way, there was nothing left but to proceed with getting rid of SW and he almost got away with it. Correct. I take comfort in that, Bella and Cee Cee likely had no idea it was their dad doing that to them, but he wouldve wanted Shanann to know he was ending her life. He said Shanann said she was going to a friends house with their two kids. The sheets were off because he used the fitted sheet to wrap her body in because of its rounded corners, he said this to the investigators. Also in his re-enactment they also didnt add up. (this is horrific and the worst thing in the whole case, in my opinion). And she clearly WANTED the best for them, and she was still learning. 100% yes again), @Kim cadaver dogs dont just detect bodies they scent death, trauma sites, bodily fluids relating to death, and sites where arguments have taken place (they scent the adrenaline-type hormones released Carol, I think you are absolutely spot on, and on all points too. And if the girls mentioned a nikki shanann may just assume her friend. I was in one temporarily an Acai drink, it really tried to make you ocd about $ and prestige attaining the unattainable honestly. Weld County DA In the text, Shanann also tells Chris that he hasn't shown any signs of missing her in the weeks they have been apart. So weird. It drives me batty to see little Cece kick her legs in joy in the videos and to know they were stopped forever. I believe he killed her while she was sleeping, would have been easy to trap her arms under covers. And to think CW called a co-worker @ 5pm to tell him that he would be going directly to the oil battery site and told the co-worker he didnt need to. Thanks for the paper, ganana Im with you on this. The reports had been sealed until the outcome of the trial. Or carbon monoxide poisoning [something a former mechanic and oil worker would know about]. (blood chokes, carotid restraints or sleeper holds) Then he felt he had to kill CeCe too. He said it was emotional but a civil conversation and they were not arguing. Was the examiner not able to determine the order in which Shanann and the girls were killed? COFFIN BIRTH OF BABY NICO!-Please read description TY Scrub The Surface 8.27K subscribers Subscribe 13K Share 1.5M views 4 years ago THIS VIDEO IS. parents are hardly ever at the ones to determine that nothing can be done to save their children. (883931) Full autopsy reports of all 3. After reading the 2000 page discovery & the autopsy report & listening to the FBI agent talk about other cases I learned that smothering by manual force is done very frequently to children. The police reports contain a conversation Chris had with his father. Your thoughts? Lack of defensive injuries. Where was all the money from that house? No sign of that either. They should have been talked to later. Shanann Watts Cause of Death: How Did the Colorado Mother Die? All but her office. Remember Nickols son found her cell phone in-between the cushions of the upstairs couch. @nickvdl Hi. Hopefully, one day we will know the whole truth of what was really going on in the lives of this tragic family; will one of the villains turn out to be MLM? I also think the MLM biz attracts people that are lost, and need to be directed and consumed by something. Possible if the hips were gyrated slightly, titled vertically, the horizontal width could be reduced by an inch. Theres just too much, including motive, he wanted a life with Nicole with no disturbances. When the girls were not at daycare, and at home, they took very long naps, and also had a 6:30 pm bedtime, sleeping 630-6:30. She tells him youll never see the kids again he flips, kills her and poor little Bella sees it. Chris Watts isnt my hero. The autopsy reports for Shanann Watts and her two young daughters show that all three were asphyxiated to death, and it's probable that 4-year-old Bella Watts fought for her life. He tells his vindictive wife that he wants out. She left him a note the morning she left for Arizona and it was very loving & positive. He said kidnap somebody, murder somebody. He has to be asked if he EVER went to look at Bella and see what condition she was in. Thats why no defense wounds. She was organized but that is not OCD, same as me. They are good at lying and work very hard at appearing normal and very important to be liked. She was a nag and loved making Chris look like a fool. I think she was going to do what most of us who suspect our man of cheating would do, see who the server was, and go to the restaurant with a pic of Chris & ask who he was in there with. The ethanol levels are perplexing though; even in decomposition they are rarely above .07. The bra thing means nothing, my daughter is big busted as well and slept in her bra when she was pregnant because her breasts that were tender were less bothersome at night if she wore one. x, Ive said this before. Like 1 in the kitchen by her purse. 100% agree. I am doing a project for school and i would like to have a look at them. He knew immediately Watts was guilty as well as the neighbor viewing the camera. He vacuumed twice a day. As a former forensic detective I dont completely agree with the DAs comment that it is normal. What information to that extent do you expect *an autopsy* to provide?? Addition. Considering the size of shananns house before they moved there. etc. Chris said: I freaked out and I did the same thing to f****** her. Thats inaccurate. This behavior is opposed to the dignity and respect of another person. How do THESE people know? His aversion to it is so blatant, and its obvious why. Jeremy Lindstromwondered if Shananns OCD and honey-do lists had gotten to Chris. He said in his admissions that she deficated during the murder in thier bed, where he wrapped her in a sheet and moved her to the floor immediately- where he was interrupted by the girls waking up (after his first attempt to kill them by suffocating them in thier sleep)- the girls were killed in his truck CeCe was wearing a diaper, so even if she had deficated or urinated it would be unclear after days in the crude oil.. And Bella was likely not dead but simply unconscious again when he dumped her body- therefore, even if she did relax enough to evacuate her bowels and bladder- it wasnt until she was in the crude oil tank. My youngest daughter slept in a bra as well. The autopsy report found that Shanann was in her second trimester of pregnancy and that the "largely decomposed fetus and placental unit" was found "expelled from the gravid uterus." Hed let her snuggle him that morning. The manner of death is homicide, the autopsy for Bella said. The second dog also had a housetraining mishap in the basement. I think Chris pretended to be asleep because I think hes a coward and wouldnt have wanted to interact with her. My opinion, when Nicole Atkinson said Shanann was OCD, I think she was using the term loosely, as a description, not a diagnosed disorder. Inhaling ethanol fumes would make them all instant drunk and completely defenseless. Watts was having an affair with a woman named Nichol Kessinger, and Shananns texts show he had grown cold to her. Ive not discussed it here though, its in the books. What was Shananns cause of death? Said it was part of the decomposition process. He resented how close they all were and was sadistic enough to hurt her. 19th Judicial District Attorney Michael Rourke said that Watts totally and deliberately ended four lives, smothering the girls. That could explain what possibly happened to Bella if she woke up and was going to see what was going on. Peanuts and tree nuts are VERY different, and supposedly CeCe had a *tree nut* allergy coconut, not peanuts! And where do you think he did it? Simply stated, you are an ignorant human being, Badmouthing the vicitm like that when she can not defend herself. I am new to this case, a couple of months of watching/listening to your videos Nick, and I am now working my way through your books. If Shanann tried to claw his neck I would think he would have cuts there. The two girls, Bella and Celestes bodies also had same, was noted in autopsy reports is from decomp process. And even if he did not kill them twice so to speak, he killed the on in front of the other with no thoughts to their fear levels or anything but yet you put all the blame on another of the victims. No matter the circumstances he killed not 3 but 4 people including his unborn child. How dare you blame the victim? Not everyone poops when they die, in fact most do not. No, I dont believe she was drinking at all, considering she was pregnant. A monster! Info released has stated she had some suitcases still packed, in her bedroom, from the SC trip, and there were other things (like her purses being messy) that just keeps chipping away at true, almost disabling sort of OCD tendencies. In addition, it became clear that she used bed as a punishment. Ive seen many people die in the hospital where I worked- not everyone poops when they die (and their stomachs were empty)- except the oil in the Angels stomach. I approached an expert to get his take on it, and was a little disappointed by his findings: https://crimerocket.com/2018/12/17/thomas-molletts-forensic-report-on-shanann-watts-post-mortem-blood-alcohol-level/. Shan'ann Watts tells her husband: "I don't want a video of you" while recording her children Chris Watts Case: What would Sherlock Holmes Do? (Oh and the bra with pregnant women 100% The T and underwear sleep outfit? I have watched/listened to a lot of Nicks videos and am now working my way through his books, and I can honestly say that he is impartial and simply digs deep into the why of the case. I guess my vanity rubbed off on her. Parents reach for any hope, even if the child is blue, even if rigor has set in, theyre desperate and people who are not emotionally involved as them, professionals,have to tell them its too late. Its definately not most. The toxicology results likely represent decomposition and an artifact of being submerged in an oil tank for several days. What she considered the kids making a mess Ha! They say the questions had nothing to do with infidelity so it doesnt matter whether or not he had an affair. Here is what the International OCD Foundation says. I think she was then taken, with her children, out of the rear of the property for concealment. I love the way people just make things up and state it as fact, even when it completely opposes evidence in the case. Have you read the 2000 page discovery? I learned all about a Sleeper/Chokeholdhated that part of SO academy, but is a great way to gain upper-hand, control over a perp and render them unconscious with one thump of my forearm on their neck/carotid artery.,, you black out immediately! I guess he did want to get rid of them all, and do it all over again with her. The ground was visible disturbed. Im just saying if her friend had never come over. He was presented with evidence before the plea deal, and we dont know the content of those conversations. Cause if it was the way CW said she would have fought back. In this day and age, OCD has become a replacement word for ritualistic behaviour and personal idiosyncrasies. It was all a complete lie. @Carol: OCD appears at least 5 times in the Discovery Documents. Part of the evidence that he put into the trash. Im thinking the girls were killed after Shanann because he knew she would look in on them, perhaps kiss them, before turning to bed herself. Im having my doubts about an emotional conversation occurring that particular morning prior to Chriss killing Shanann. If you believe that Chris didnt kill his daughters, then why on earth did he dump their bodies in oil tanks like they were trash? Even more common with pregnant women. We know that she went to her office and attempted to order haircare products, and in the welfare check footage you can clearly see a large dark blanket on the sofa, and two small pink chair beds by the side of the sofa. The reports concluded that all three victims died of asphyxiation Shanann was strangled while the two girls were smothered, according to the reports. What about rigormortis?. I always wondered why she didnt fight back, too. B . This was filmed during the police officers body cam footage. What was the motive? Did you mention in your book that Shannan thought her marriage was wonderful and things started changing around the time your Hero Chris Watts started having an affair? I didnt see any evidence that Shanann tried to defend herself, probably because he sat on top of her. Before I became a police officer- I was an EMT and I worked for 8 months for a company that transports dead bodies from where they die to funeral homes or the medical examiner. Frank and Sandy Rzucek, and their son Franky, tell CBS4 they have been physically, emotionally and financially exhausted by unfounded claims by conspiracy theorists who believe they played roles . If they were pliable makes me wonder if they were not deceased that long before he was able to shove them into the tanks. Its actually not uncommon. The body is that of a well-developed, well-nourished Caucasian female whose appearance is generally consistent with the I have high praise for you, you are excellent at what you do. For starters there was only ONE cadaver dog (the Lab) who indicated only TWO places in the house the spot in the basement between the stairs and the heating system fan, and by the rear sliding door! He stated in a letter to the reporter woman that he remembers her face streaking with mascara and blood filling her eyes. Her friend had to tiptoe around the place when she stayed over for fear of waking the kids up. It was almost too much to absorb at one reading. I love that guy. 2. Everyone did think I was the nutty one by what he said cause he was a great guy to them. We cannot have that thing on earth with us. She was relatively YOUNG. Why was her phone downstairs along with suitcase. She was an environmental science person. Watts has since pleaded guilty to killing his wife and daughters, as well as a charge of unlawful termination of a pregnancy. It may interest people to see how MLM companies such as Thrive, train their customers and promoters in Time and Management and Organisational skills, both of which can be classified as OCD behaviours to an untrained eye. Diana, this is something several of us have noted as well. Also, wasnt her phone found in between couch cushions. In the report, (link below) stories of financial devastation, destruction of relationships, and even murders and suicides paint a vivid picture of an industry built on lies and deception a business that focuses its greedy eyes on the naive and the vulnerable. Like you, I believe the children were sedated, and possibly Shanann as well. The full autopsy reports are included below: Watts Aggregate Autopsy Reports by EKilloran on Scribd, MANHUNT: Hobby Lobby Distribution Center Manager Shot Dead in Altercation With Employee, 16-Year-Old High School Student Fatally Stabbed in Classroom Fight, Young Child FaceTimes for Help After 4 Members of Family Slain, Chris Watts tried to pin the murders of 3-year-old Celeste and 4-year-old Bella on his wife when he first confessed to murdering Shanann, who was 15 weeks pregnant at the time, In the video of Chris Wattss confession, previously published on. Celestes stomach was empty. A history of this procedure could easily go unnoticed during an autopsy. In the autopsy Shannan was found to be still wearing a bra. Nick Van Der Leek is the owner of this site and you are invited to comment, which is a privilege and we should be grateful. As previously reported, Shanann Watts was 15 weeks pregnant at the time of her murder, with a baby boy the couple had already named Niko. I did mention that Shanann was still in love with him and wanted a child with, and wanted to work on their marriage right up until the moment of her death. She had the girls in daycare full time to the tune of $500 a week, spending $28k a year per official documents, and this HAD to be a financial strain. I remember reading as part of the Scott Peterson murder investigation that they found traces of fecal matter in the carpet (which had been cleaned) in a downstairs hallway, I think, but I just looked around and couldnt find anything, so I must have mis-remembered. Nickole called Chris several times and he kept giving different arrival times. RIP Angels. As far as the BAC goes, it had been over 100 hours from the estimated time of death to when the samples were taken at autopsy. Murdering someone through strangulation doesnt take that long. 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