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For example, a slightly orangish ruby won't be worth nearly as much as a pure red. Based on my research PGS was at the time a decent grader, and have seen some PGS cards cross over fairly well to either SGC or PSA. He calls himself KingofCards and he calls his grading company KOC. Thats about an $8 card. MINT 9. i never dealt with them before. Get started with the International Gem Societys free guide to gemstone identification. Beckett Grading Services (BGS) Features: Full Art. The late Donald Clark, CSM founded the International Gem Society in 1998. Sign in or register to get started. Hello all. All submitters shall receive emails from 25th July weekly for their personal submission update. SGC would never give the 4th one a 4! If set on white gold, distinguishing the separate stones proves difficult. 100% that card is altered or fake. Visit Website. A virtually flawless card. Also, cutting can greatly affect a gem's appearance, so examine cut gems carefully. I put the disclaimer on there to tell people that were not liable for that, because things do happen, Lorber said. Pokemon Dark Phantasma Snorlax 077 CHR Card Japanese ACE Grading Gem Mint 10. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network and Amazon Associates Affiliate Program. Remember that rarer features don't necessarily mean the stone is "better quality." One of the earlier graders that went out of business around 2007. 0.99 + 3.55 Postage. In all likelihood, its a basement grader. Taft said the impact of these cards is significant because in his estimation, the volume of these counterfeits is extensive. I think its just more caution. Just another bad PSA grade!!! That would apply to those who purchased directly from his Web site or eBay ID. On a well-cut cab, it will flow smoothly from one side to the other. 2022 International Gem Society LLC. Get Directions. Free postage. Ah ha, this is why I save really old emails. When you look at the fact that these guys have taken a card that will sell for $8-$10 and counterfeited it, that in itself is a huge message.. 04-28-2008, 05:48 PM. AGS was related with Shop at Home early on and notorious for overgrading cards that were sold on the Shop at Home network. If you encounter so-called white aquamarines, buyer beware. Gengar VMAX - 157/264 - Fusion Strike - Ace Grading - 2021 - 10 - GEM MINT. Entdecke #/5 Jorge Soler BGS 9.5 GEM 2015 Bowman Chrome Red Refractor Auto RC in groer Auswahl Vergleichen Angebote und Preise Online kaufen bei eBay Kostenlose Lieferung fr viele Artikel! Hence, they often demand a higher price per carat. Login to your CGC account here. Now, you must choose between having the name "emerald" or a premium green color. See details. They graded a trimmed card a gem mint 10. My opinion is much like the rest of the guys-----, " In a time of universal deceit , telling the truth is a revolutionary act " --- George Orwell. Wasn't familiar with this one until a reader sent me in this Babe Ruth magazine clipping. I will concur this Nolan Ryan is definitely at least a 4. They should send the cards back to those people., That address:Gem Grading, Inc.P.O. Those companies were PSA, BVG/BGS ( Beckett ), SGC, and GIA. Thus with CTA, I don't know if they were slabbing fake cards, but most definitely over grading cards. For the record, it was a counterfeit 1980 WBTV Charlotte O's Cal Ripken, Jr., in a GEM slab that lead to ripkenintheminors.com being born. Jalen Hurts Flawless Dual Rookie Patch Auto /15 PSA MINT 9! There have been sellers of Gem-graded cards on Yahoo!s auction site as well, and those sellers offer a connection to the October, 2003, investigation by SCD. Some of them, its really easy to tell from the scan if you know the cutting characteristics of the original cards, he said. While I've heard of some ASA graded cards turning out as fakes, I think I would be mostly concerned about the over-grading and the numerical grading of doctored/altered cards. Gold Mew 025/025 Celebrations - ACE Grading 10 GEM MINT - Custom Label. Capitol was part of an expose back in a 2005 SCD article, which claimed that GEM grading, Capitol Grading and Foremost Grading (FGA) were involved in a big operation in which they were knowingly grading fake cards: "SCD discovered that counterfeits of 1963 Bazooka cards, 1921 W551 strip cards, 1931 W517 strip cards, 1947 Homogenized Bond Bread and 1952 Wheaties were being sold online..but also the Bond Bread and other similar cards that were targeted in that SCD investigation three years ago. In the 90's and early 2000's, there were dozens of grading companies. Most of the TSA stuff i see on eBay is more modern such as this Jordan card below: I don't have a ton of experience with USA, as they went under sometime around 2002-2003 I believe. Overgrading or possible trimming. Graded Basketball HOF'ers for $100 or Less. A light tear or surface break may exist. This is because they do not have the same brand recognition as BGS and PSA. from United States. To me it looks too white on back side and shines. I think the key is to spend some time training yourself. ENTER YOUR MAXIMUM ABSENTEE BID. Free shipping for many products! A Good card is a card centered 90/10 or better. For more information, please see our MTK, Anyone think this 86 Jordan is real? Here's a Lajoie T206 card that has clearly been trimmed but graded as Near Mint: I haven't been able to find much about this company and can't even find a website, but I do see more recent issued 2021 cards that have been graded by them, so I'm assuming this is a basement grader. Let's say you examine two similar gems of the same size and color. I took the GEM out of its case and to a card show. Their PSAs are good! 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We'll assume you're ok with this, but you can opt-out if you wish. I have a few of their newer cards and they do not appear trimmed, but a bit overgraded, I don't think I've ever seen a GEM 9 before. Each precious stone page features additional detailed gemological information, a buyer's guide, photos, videos & research. Country. 1, beginning and intermediate collectors can get frustrated when theyve bought a counterfeit in an alleged graded-card holder; you can see people drop out of the hobby because of that. Note you can still find FGA cards on its website, but I'd be super careful with any of those. Notice how the light moves across the surface. centering is 55/45) MNT 9 Active member. A Mint 9 card's attributes include 60/40 or better centering, sharp focus, and sharp corners. NOTE: Model grading is shown in the "GRADING" tab. Along with dozens of articles for leading trade magazines, Donald authored the book Modern Faceting, the Easy Way.. Minor flaws may exist upon close examination. Special financing available. Honestly, they are not a reputable company. They weren't around for very long and I don't know with certainty how honest they were in grading any altered cards (or counterfeits) but if anyone has experience let me know. It will be almost impossible for a company to be successful without a large hobby name behind it, and even then, tough the same. I find WCG, Mint Grading, CSA Grading and Advanced Grading are better then you claim they are. This is my first post here. Notably GAI was the first unopened pack grading company and if you find a GAI graded wax pack, odds are that it is authentic and not tampered with. Press J to jump to the feed. Capitol Grading and FGA (Foremost Grading Authority) holders often contain fakes, too". Otherwise, I'd avoid these if you find themor at the very least, spend a lot more time examining the card. Maybe somebody every two or three years can track down a Stockton or Malone 1988 Kenner Starting Lineup card, but nobodys got multiples of those.. They will be returned to you ungraded and not encased. Be cautious. Im just talking about refunds that were purchased from us. A card with a noticeable imperfection, such as less-than-perfect centering, edge chipping, a soft corner, or surface scratching, is a dummy card. 2023 Active Interest Media All rights reserved. Joined: Dec 2014. What is his reputation in the hobby? 1986 Fleer Basketball Charles Barkley PSA Mint 9. My point is there are a lot of good things (in Gem holders). Gemstone deposits will yield pieces with a wide variety of qualities. Hager actually developed the 1 to 10 grading scale used by all of the major grading companies today. IGS may receive customer referral fees from the companies listed in this page. CUSTOM MADE CARDS, REPRINTS, OR OTHER COUNTERFEIT CARDS will not be graded. QUAD w/10 EDGES! On a well-cut stone, they'll be crisp and come together at a single point. Providing authentication is challenging and not guaranteed due to improved computerized printing techniques. Theres so many bullshit companies out there, its so frustrating. CURRENT BID 0.00 USD + applicable fees & taxes. That doesn't even look like a real company. HULK 2099 1995 FLAIR ANNUAL MARVEL GEM MINT 10 EMC GRADING. (No personality will find a poorly cut stone appealing). Some folks from an old Collectors Forum post note that CSA had three different 'flips', one as above with the red and white label (in which the grading was ok, but slightly over-graded), another with an entirely blue holder (shown below with the Jordan RC) in which cards were even more over-graded. {"email":"Email address invalid","url":"Website address invalid","required":"Required field missing"}. Were both not impressed with the so called PSA professional graders! Gem MNT 9.5 A 'Gem Mint 9.5' is a card in exquisite condition only showing the slightest imperfections (E.g. In recent decades, something remarkable invaded the thinking process of the colored stone industry. But that's about it. Monday, May 13, 2019 5:52 AM. Non-professionals have an easier time examining cabochons or cabs, gems cut with flat bottoms and domed tops. Their catalog is online. The Registered Agent on file for this company is .Resigned. This card usually exhibits one or more of these characteristics: heavy print spots, heavy crease(s), pinhole(s), color or focus imperfections or discoloration, surface scuffing or tear, rounded and/or fraying corners, ink or pencil marking(s), and lack of all or some original gloss. The contact is Timothy Lorber from Carson City NV. But thats about it. 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Damaged Corner on a GMA Gem-MT 10 Josh Rosen Rated Rookie Card. They also had a third holder with subgrades which one forum poster claimed is one to definitely steer clear of: Clear holders with subgrades - Laughable grading/authentication - basically PRO style rules on trimming and authenticity. So, I thought it would be helpful for collectors to have a Sports Card Grading Graveyard where we list out old card graders and whether or not their slabs/grades should be trusted. Feel free to comment below or send any images to chris@allvintagecards.com. These cookies will be stored in your browser only with your consent. A light hairline crease may show on one or both sides. A Good 2 with higher grade centering or corners. Their color can equal that of fine emeralds, without the inclusions and at a much lower price. Not only do they cost less per weight, the "amount of gem" you see is disproportionate to size. 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